10/29/2009 12:18:08 PM EST
Developers don't care about productivity and speed? I have a hard time believing that any developer would agree with that assertion. The faster a developer gets feedback on his changes, the more likely he is to keep his flow and be highly productive! I think the real reason for the adoption of open-source continuous integration tools is that they work well enough, and no approval processes need to be dealt with. Increasingly you are seeing that commercial CI tool vendors are offering free version to allow teams to get started without upfront costs. Atlassian Bamboo offers a starter license available for a $10 charitable contribution, and other products like TeamCity have free versions too. Products such as CruiseControl and Hudson are widely adopted, but the jury is out as to whether they are truly the best solutions for CI.
United StatesJesse Gibbs
10/29/2009 03:05:01 PM EST
Isn't saying Java builds are getting faster based on the fact they now take, on average, less than 10 minutes a bit like a 400-pound man saying he's skinnier because he lost 5 pounds? It may be true, but it's definitely a stretched truth. If you check out the survey on ZeroTurnaround's site (http://tinyurl.com/ykq3qf9) it seems their point is there's a lot of time being wasted waiting for incremental builds and even more waiting for redeployments in J2E containers (http://tinyurl.com/lpxj6o)
United StatesHarris Powell
10/30/2009 03:06:26 AM EST
I'm glad builds are speeding up. This is nice where PCode is a great fit. If I'm personally needing horsepower though - I turn to compiled stuff.. really compiled - as in to machine code, not PCode. I'm personally an advocate for something that compiles MUCH faster than most compilable languages period (Pcode or binary), runs on multiple platforms directly on the CPUs and at least less layers if on virtual machines: FreePascal.org - The web site doesn't look so great - but that's because everyone is away using the stuff not making the web site pretty LOL :) Pascal isn't a college language anymore - it's on par with C++ all day... and actually more portable.. runs on nintendo, iphone, arm, intel, mac, windows, linux, dos, etc... I think freebsd too among others - really my secret weapon of choice! :) --Jason Seriously - I like Java.. but scripting/pcode to me
United StatesJason P Sage
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